WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



gph 12:51 Sun Apr 2
Re: Everton financial fair play
They cheat and they're still fucking rubbish?

At least Man City produce art

On The Ball 11:55 Sat Apr 1
Re: Everton financial fair play
..... AND?????

North Bank 9:05 Sat Apr 1
Re: Everton financial fair play
Westside they're probably stringing it out until their status in the PL is confirmed. If they stay up they'll probably file them around July and take the fine from HMRC with any points deduction for the following season and if they're as good as down they'll rush them through, filing them before the season ends so any punishment will be added onto this seasons points tally and

Westside 7:28 Sat Apr 1
Re: Everton financial fair play
Everton have missed the government statutory accounts filing deadline, for their 2022 accounts.

I'm sure they have nothing to hide and it's just an administrative oversight...

Mike Oxsaw 6:20 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
The PL/FA have a whole raft of "punishments" for transgression of their rules but none of them actually have any teeth - the words just look & sound good in the media.

Everton may - only may, mind you - get a light tap on the wrist for this, then, as soon as the authorities backs are turned, will give them the finger - in spades.

LJC 5:59 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
What rule did those 6 clubs break?

nychammer 4:50 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
if the FA don't have the spine to deduct points from the 6 clubs who unilaterally decided to leave the premier league and bring the game into serious disrepute, then how can they justify going after Everton for this?

, 2:09 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
There are so many differing precedents that it seems whichever one followed will be open to criticism. However a lot depends on whether or not Everton get relegated.

Going down a fine and transfer embargoes is a reasonably acceptable remedy. If they stay up a result that does not include a points deduction will seem too mild compared to the misdemeanour.

Crassus 1:03 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
Didn't Swindon take a harsh points deduction?

From memory there was a hooha around theirs being upheld and Spurs escaping - they have never recovered

Unless I'm imagining the whole thing

The Ghost of Sven 12:19 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
Yes, Boro it was.
Was a game v Blackburn they didnt turn up for

Westside 11:59 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
But think it was Derby who managed to get it delayed so that Wycombe went down instead.

Derby had two lots of points deducted. The standard 12 points, immediately they entered administration, in season.

They also had 9 points deducted for financial irregularities, from the sale of Pride Park. This was applied, as soon as the case was proved (in season), but it had dragged on for ages.

goose 11:55 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
They extended the period under scrutiny from 3 years to 4 to negate the Covid effects.

No-one else has breached the rules.

Westside 11:53 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
Think it was Blackburn who got points deducted for not playing a game when they reckoned they didnt have enough players but cant recall any other club being deducted points. Spurs were at the start of one season I think for some reason (?) but got them back about 5 mins later.

It was Middlesbrough who were docked 3 points, due to lack of players.

Spurs were docked 12 points (then reversed on appeal) for illegal player payments.

Ironically, it was Spurs's case, that set a precedent of wrong doings of one owner, not being punished by a points deduction, for subsequent owners, which helped us not get a points deduction over Tevez. When Sugar took over at Spurs, he eventually found the illegal payments and owned up to them. The points deduction was overturned, big fine instead.

The Ghost of Sven 11:43 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
These things seem to be variable
When clubs go into administration in the Football league they seem to get penalised in the current season.
But think it was Derby who managed to get it delayed so that Wycombe went down instead

Think it was Blackburn who got points deducted for not playing a game when they reckoned they didnt have enough players but cant recall any other club being deducted points. Spurs were at the start of one season I think for some reason (?) but got them back about 5 mins later.
Agree with many that Everton wont either .... Premier league will let them use the COVID excuse after the owner proves he has plenty of cash to keep them going

Westside 11:38 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
Even if there was a points deduction wouldn't it be from the start of next season?

Depends when the results of the case are known. If known by the end of the season, before the start of next, no reason it wouldn't be applied in this season.

Points deductions for being in administration have been applied, in season for example.

Manuel 11:03 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
Even if there was a points deduction wouldn't it be from the start of next season?

LJC 11:00 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
Iron Duke 7:13 Sat Mar 25
Re: Everton financial fair play

I love it when people just completely make stuff up.

iphammer 2:59 Sun Mar 26
Re: Everton financial fair play
Our's & Evertons Transfer payments over 3 seasons.

Everton's Ins and Outs

20/21 season
In £73 million
Out £4 million

21/22 season
In £39.50 million
Out £46 million

22/23
In £78 million
Out £103 million

Over 3 seasons
Spent £190.5 million
Received £153 million

Total spent on transfers £37.5 million

Our ins and outs

20/21 season
In £54 million
Out £45 million

21/22 season
In £74 million
Out £4 million

22/23 million
In £194 million
Out £21 million

Over 3 season
Spent £322 million
Received £70 million

Total spent on transfers £252 million

Yorkammer 9:03 Sat Mar 25
Re: Everton financial fair play
If there is an allowance for 'covid losses' this needs to be applied equally to every club.

Westside 8:46 Sat Mar 25
Re: Everton financial fair play
Everton have definitely breached FFP, its just how much 'covid losses' they're allowed to get away it.

Per their own published accounts, they lost £252 million, in the TWO years to June 2021, of which they attribute £84 million to covid, So would have lost £168 million, if there hadn't been covid.

So unless they've made a ridiculous profit in the year to June 2022 (in excess of £60 million), they will be in breach of FFP.

Steady 7:18 Sat Mar 25
Re: Everton financial fair play
I wonder if the Antony Gordon sale and lack of transfer activity in January was to cover some of this up

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